And Tony Neumann and Terry Neumann and Jackie Stanley and Claude Stanley - they are really, I think, economically, a lost generation. They're the people who, at the beginning of our project in 1991, had lost their foothold in the middle class, and they were never to gain it back, and as we get to 20
. They were working their tails off at jobs making 6.50, 7.50 an hour, whatever they could make. Terry Neumann took a job making 6-something an hour in the kitchen of a school, and would get a few hours a week and try to get every hour she could so she could get another $6. I mean, think about that.
question, Tonya, I think over the decades, over the various administrations, I think that they felt like what happens in Washington is not happening for me, is not helping me. In 2024, Terry Neumann said to us, one of the first things when we saw her earlier this year was, we haven't come very far.
to have $1,000,000 to retire. And then he just kind of guffaws. He laughs, like, you know, that's not me. So it was always in the back of their minds. And I - Terry Neumann at some point said to us, I think we'll just work till we drop. I don't think they ever thought they would retire comfortably.
CASCIATO: Terry is the one - Terry Neumann is the one who speaks the most about the toll that the many physical jobs she has had has taken on her body. She gets up in the morning, and it's all aches and pains until she warms up. And she's in her 60s and still doing a very physical job.
